Brian Johnson recalls his conversation with Jeffrey Epstein, saying that a brief video call convinced him that he was a “very dark person”.
American entrepreneur and venture capitalist Brian Johnson recalled his conversation with Jeffrey Epstein, saying that a short video call convinced him that the convicted sex offender was “a very dark person”. This comes after the Department of Justice released the largest batch on Friday Jeffrey Epstein files to date, which include another three million Document pageand thousands of videos and photos.
Brian Johnson recalls feeling ‘sick to my stomach’ after call with Epstein (@bryan_johnson/x, via REUTERS)”8 years ago I met Epstein via Zoom. A mutual contact contacted us when I was building my brain interface company Kernel and he supposedly did some neuroscience stuff at MIT,” Johnson wrote in X.
“After a ten-minute video call I immediately called the person who contacted us and told him that Epstein seemed like a very dark person. I felt sick to my stomach. I told him that I never wanted to talk to him again. I remember it so clearly because I knew nothing about him but strangely, intuitively, something was deeply wrong with him,” he added, feeling dangerous with him.
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Johnson added that he never contacted Epstein again after their call.
“Despite having nothing to go on, I never contacted him again and found out years later that he was a fuk*** in the past,” he concluded.
Johnson shared more details about the call in a follow-up post. Explaining why the two of them connected, he wrote, “He was working at MIT, on neuroscience-related stuff, and he knew that getting access to brain data was a key limitation (which was the exact problem I was working on in the kernel). There was an obvious incentive for him to connect with me, and he wanted to make contact at the last minute of the call. An immediate no.
“Normally I wouldn’t say something like this publicly because I usually just stick to quantifiable science…but he is legitimately the most intuitively ‘evil’ person I’ve ever met (or been with). It was the strongest negative feeling I’ve ever had about another person. It was visceral,” he continued.
Johnson continued, “We were on the phone for maybe ten minutes, and he talked to 8, maybe 9 of them. He just talked to me. His thoughts, his plans, his accomplishments, who he knows, what he wants. Everything went off. I remember the call dragging on. Most of what he talked about was flexing connections, HardIT, donor money. . . .”
Johnson also defended the decision to hook up with Epstein in the first place.
“That’s the thing, it wasn’t part of my algo whether someone I was introducing was a registered sex offender…,” he said. “He wasn’t even presented as some obvious outcast. He was shrouded in credibility, positioned by others as relevant and important. Epstein wasn’t someone who randomly showed up. He was embedded in institutional credibility. It turns out that even after he was a convicted sex offender, people at MIT and Harvard surrounded him. Seems legit.”
“That interaction was the first and last time I interacted with him. I feel for all of you. It’s horrible,” Johnson added.
The latest Epstein fileThe newly released documents shed light on Epstein’s relationships with a number of prominent people, including Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. The New York Times reported that the files contain at least 4,500 documents that refer to President Trump.
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Meanwhile, Trump told reporters that the latest release of the Epstein files Exonerates him from any wrongdoing. “I was told by some very important people that not only does this not exonerate me, it’s the opposite of what people expect from, you know, the radical left,” he said in his first public comments since the latest release of the files.
Sumanti Sen is a journalist at Hindustan Times, where she covers US news with a focus on crime, politics and more. Her many years of experience include surviving Hamas attacks, working with mental health professionals and victims/families of crime. Sixty people who want their voices to be heard. When not at work, you’ll either find him with his novel, or his beloved pooch.Read more
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