Candace Owens spent years calling Hunter Biden a crazy person on the internet. Hunter Biden spent years calling Candace Owens crazy on the Internet.
And yet, somehow, here we are: the two sitting across from each other in Owens’ home studio — a Brigitte Macron doll in attendance — enjoying what can only be described as one of the strangest hours of content the Internet has produced in some time.
The origin story is almost too good. Owens has been trying to get Biden for some time, according to her spokesman, Mitchell Jackson. The breakthrough came during a dinner party, when podcast host Sean Ryan asked Owens to name her dream guest. Hunter Biden said. Ryan called him the next day.
Days later, Biden was in the chair.
The two cover a large area of land. Biden denies that the cocaine found at the White House in 2023 was his, noting that he had been clean since June 1, 2019, a fact he says was verified by probation officials, who drug-tested him for two years.
He also noted that it was not even near the visitors’ entrance where the drugs were found. Owens responded: “You’d rather have crack anyway!”
Biden is unfazed: “I wouldn’t forget that in a small cubicle to go to the operating room, which I had never been to before.”
On the laptop, they find unexpected common ground.
Biden calls the Russian propaganda frame “nonsense” and insists it was not a laptop at all, but “a hard drive containing stolen and hacked material.”
The most unexpectedly overt extension is addiction. Owens grew up around this topic, she says, and he pushes back against the assumption that money and privilege isolate anyone from their reach.
Biden doesn’t dispute any of it. He also doesn’t dispute the nickname Owens has spent years publicly linking him to.
“The fact of the matter is, I was crazy,” he says plainly. “I say that so as not to shock people.”
He describes years of public humiliation with a frankness that was more difficult than expected: “They tore off all my clothes, dressed me in tar and feathers, put me in the middle of the city, and said, ‘Look at him.’” “I survived.”
Owens, to her credit, doesn’t deviate.
“I’m sorry I contributed to this,” she says. “You participated in inhumanity.”
There’s also a twist via Charlie Kirk — Biden defends Owens for publicly turning on her former best friend before his assassination last September, while Owens says she still hasn’t forgiven the Trump family for what she believes they did to him.
They conclude by inviting Biden to make a joint trip to the Vatican to see the Pope. Owens tells him he should go to confession. He assures her that he already has.
It’s a fitting end to an interview that probably shouldn’t exist but somehow does.
