‘Sleepers’ at 30: Director Barry Levinson is still baffled by the film’s controversy

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After nearly 30 years, The sleepers Director Barry Levinson still believes the discourse surrounding the star-studded drama has lost the plot.

Based on Lorenzo Carcaterra’s book of the same name, The sleepers The film begins in the late 1960s, telling the story of four teenage friends, but their mischievous quest for a free hot dog goes horribly awry when they almost kill an innocent bystander. As a result, they are sent to the Wilkinson Home for Boys where they endure 6 to 18 months of sexual and physical abuse at the hands of four guards.

The New York-based film then jumps to 1981. Two of the four friends – John Reilly (Ron Eldard) and Tommy Marcano (Billy Crudup) – discover their former main attacker, Sean Knox (Kevin Bacon), in a restaurant and promptly shoot him. Their remaining friends – Lorenzo “Shex” Carcaterra (Jason Patric), now a low-level writer in… New York Timesand Assistant District Attorney Michael Sullivan (Brad Pitt) – vow to exonerate the imprisoned couple and expose the corrupt establishment that destroyed their lives.

In today’s context, the 1996 film that takes down a dangerous ring of child predators seems ahead of its time, but at the time of its release, there was more focus on poking holes in Carcaterra’s claim that… The sleepers It is based on his real life story. The author emphasized that the essence of the story is real despite the fictional names and dates. However, Levinson still believes that this inquisition undermined the larger point made about the abuse of institutions.

“Why does the movie fall into this vicious cycle of whether or not something happened? It’s a story. It wasn’t the craziest, weirdest thing you could ever imagine,” Levinson says. Hollywood Reporter In support of The sleepers New 4K/Blu-ray release. “I never understood the hype that was made at the time. It took, in some ways, what the piece was. It doesn’t need validation in that regard for us to pay attention to it.”

Another controversial aspect concerns Robert De Niro’s father, Bobby and the false alibi he made on the witness stand to help childhood friends he was mentoring. A number of critics have rejected the idea that a priest could lie at all, especially after placing his left hand on a Bible and swearing an oath. But one detail of the film that is often overlooked is that father Bobby and his best friend also spent time in Wilkinson in their youth. If Bobby wasn’t a victim himself, his friend certainly was. So his reluctant commitment to perjury was not just about helping two men escape vigilante justice; It was also about bringing down anyone involved in covering up Wilkinson’s ongoing abuse.

“[The discourse] I was concerned about whether the priest would lie down on the platform or not. You can certainly have that, but that’s not the point of the movie. “It was a much broader work than that,” Levinson says. “It’s not a film that tries to defend this or that.”

Below, during a conversation with THRLevinson also discusses the major studios’ lack of priority for mid-budget films such as… The sleepersAnd also whether he sees himself making another film.

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Do you remember what pulled you in a direction? The sleepers After releasing two films (Jimmy Hollywood and Disclosure) in 1994?

[Co-founder of Propaganda Films] Steve Golin gave me the book. He wanted me to take a look at it and see if I would be interested in developing it. This is really where I started.

Jeffrey Wigdor Young John, Joe Perino Young Shakes, Jonathan Tucker Young Tommy, Brad Renfro Young Michael V. The sleepers. Courtesy of Warner Bros.

Given how heavy the material was, it was The sleepers Tough sell for the studio?

I don’t remember it that way, but I can’t give you the details from 30 years ago.

There are countless reasons why John Williams was hired, but was it part of the idea that he would be able to provide a glimmer of hope in this dark story?

I didn’t think about it in those terms. He is clearly a great composer. I thought he could handle this material well, and I felt it needed a touch [Leonard] Bernstein in a way. It needed a little hint in the air, when I think of New York. A conversation took place between me and him, then he responded to the article, and that made me happy. He is truly a marvel.

Did you choose children or adults first?

It’s a good question because I can’t remember specifically. Most likely, we looked for adult versions of the characters first, and then figured out what kids could play as younger versions of them.

Brad Pitt as Assistant District Attorney Michael Sullivan in Barry Levinson’s film The sleepers Courtesy of Warner Bros.

Brad Pitt was in high demand coming out 12 Monkeys And David Fincher seven. With Fincher being one of the founders of Propaganda alongside Jolene, did his involvement give you the inside track on choosing Pitt?

I don’t think it’s related, as I recall. But again, looking back 30 years, I can’t give you the real scoop on that.

The sleepers This was your first of five collaborations with Robert De Niro. Did you quickly sense that you would be working together for many years to come?

To be honest, no. I was thrilled to use it, but I didn’t expect it after the first time we worked together. It was great, but I didn’t know what I was going to do and how that would fit in with what Bob was going to do. So it was somewhat serendipitous that we started connecting. And then, sometimes, he would mention something like that and the same [producing partner] Jane Rosenthal did just that Shake the dog [the following year]. So it was just something that started falling out periodically. The business at hand made sense to Bob.

Robert De Niro as Father Bobby The sleepers.

The sleepers It was the second of four films you and Dustin Hoffman made together. If you are looking for the perfect follow-up rain man?

No, we weren’t looking. I wasn’t looking and neither was he. When I wrote the script, I said to myself, “Dustin would be a good choice here. I’ll see if he wants to do it.” Again, that was a long time ago, but I think we had to find that window in which he could work. Maybe he was about to do something else, or was working on something else right before that. But I thought there was something for him here.

In contrast to Pete’s serenity, I love the way he is constantly turning pages and pacing and fidgeting in the courtroom. It was a nice touch considering the character was in the throes of alcoholism and wanted no part of this highly orchestrated affair.

Yes, the physicality of it – rather than just sitting there – shows that the guy has some issues. How can you do that without explaining it somehow in a great way? So it’s a physicality that seemed to fit what we were doing.

Kevin Bacon as Knox The sleepers Courtesy of Warner Bros.

The timing of Knox’s (Kevin Bacon) murder is an interesting choice. Most movies would have saved the villains’ comeuppance for last and made a meal out of it. I assume you’ve been loyal to Lorenzo Carcaterra’s book, but did you ever get a message about killing a different guard first before making your way to Knox?

I don’t remember that, no. When I wrote it, it somehow seemed appropriate. You could certainly do another version, but then you would have more murders in the piece, contrary to chance. [John and Tommy] He happened to be at the same bar where Nokis was eating. If there is another killing, he will prepare for the next killing [of Nokes]You will be on the path of revenge. That course wasn’t the point of it all.

I read some old reviews that questioned Father Bobby’s decision to lie, and did not mention that he also spent time at the Wilkinson Home for Boys as a teenager. He saw first hand how this place destroyed his best friend. So his final lie on the stand wasn’t just about beating up John (Ron Eldard) and Tommy (Billy Crudup) for murder; It was about exposing this evil institution. I think this motivation is lost in some reviews.

n Uncle, I did. They didn’t focus on the overall piece. They went into one corner and lost the overall thematic design of the entire film.

When the movie came out, a lot of things came to light, in general, about the abuse of children in some of these facilities. but [the discourse] I was concerned about whether the priest would lie down on the platform or not. You can certainly have that, but that’s not the point of the movie. It was a much broader piece, you can judge for yourself.

Sometimes you’re shooting a movie, and they get caught up in a bunch of stuff going on all over the place, and they don’t focus on what the movie is about. It’s not a film that tries to defend this or that. It’s a comprehensive story that you’re involved in, and you can discuss the positives and negatives of what happened.

The film ends with a legal disclaimer that calls into question the veracity of what we saw. Do you still believe the author of the source material?

I think most of the time. But why does the movie fall into a loop if something happens or doesn’t happen? It’s a story. We don’t have to say, “This is a true story” at the beginning, but that was from the book. It didn’t have to be that way. But to say that none of these things could ever happen? It wasn’t the craziest, weirdest thing I had ever imagined. So I never heard that noise it made at that time. It’s taken away, in some ways, from what the piece was. You don’t have to agree to it. It doesn’t advocate anything other than “this is the story being told.” No validation is required in this regard for us to pay attention.

Even if this is not literally true, there have been countless cases of institutional abuse where it has been spiritually or emotionally true.

right. Movies get caught up in certain things, periodically, for reasons you wonder, and that’s when The sleepers out. He still does well here. In Europe, it was huge because he wasn’t involved in any controversy. I’m still not even sure why there’s any real controversy.

The majority of your films including The sleepers It falls into the mid-budget range that major studios no longer produce on the scale they used to. Has it been difficult for you to watch your bread and butter disappear over the years?

Yes. Generally speaking, taking me out of the mix, what’s happening now is that there’s too much focus on the blockbuster, rather than, this [smaller] The film can make us some money, and we can keep moving forward. Instead, they go for the expensive movie that costs $150 million or more, but that’s the territory of movies worth around $40 million that could eventually work out. It can also expand your audience instead of narrowing it down to a smaller number. So my point is I don’t think you can survive by just working in one field mostly. It narrows your audience year after year. This is wrong.

I’m just someone trying to write and make films. I’m not an executive who has to look at the economics of the business. But some people I talk to haven’t seen a movie in four years because they’re not interested in movies that do well. Therefore, they are looking for something else. So there are pros and cons, but I don’t know how you can survive when you start limiting y our audience.

The loss of the mid-budget film has also been cited as one of the reasons why young movie stars are not emerging in large numbers. This band served as a launching pad or testing ground for many future stars. Established stars like Pitt still have their place, but now the IP or high concept is the star.

I think that’s a good argument. I mean, what’s the other reason? I’m not sure. There are people who appear on television, unlike in the past, but it is true. Where is the breakout movie star? Not much compared to what it used to be, that’s for sure.

The film industry is also facing [streaming series] And the Internet. These are two other entertainment areas where many people spend hours and hours. They do not pay close attention to what they see or do on the Internet [due to cell phones]. You won’t be able to tell stories if you’re texting for hours at a time. Sometimes, you go to a restaurant, and you see two people on their cell phones at the same table. They are with each other, but they are somewhere else at the same time. So I can’t figure out this whole behavior, and we’re looking at some kind of collapse.

Hollywood in general has a problem with all those other devices at work, but I still think you can’t work in one device [budget] The area alone, where the focus is.

Do you have another movie in mind?

Yes, there are two or three projects I have. We’re ready to go out and see if we can make it. They’re not particularly expensive films, one costing maybe $20 million and the other $15 million. I can work quickly. I made it the Humility With Al Pacino for $2 million, and we shot it at my house. I made another movie, Gulffor $2 million. So I have no problem working in every way as long as I know the story I want to tell. So we’ll see what happens. The business is going through a dramatic transformation, and whether all these acquisitions happen or not, it’s a big guessing game as to what’s beneficial or not. These are the times we are in.

There is a prominent director who insists that filmmaking is a younger man’s game. I assume you reject this idea?

Well, I don’t think age is the issue. It’s the ideas. What ideas do you want to do? Are they completely out of fashion? But if you’re dealing primarily with the world we live in, what’s the story you want to tell? I don’t think it’s based on anything else.

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